Blattiquette... For tours and runs
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Blattiquette... For tours and runs
There are alot of trips coming up shortly and a few newbies joining... Am i right in saying theres a blattequette section on the forum?. Maybe a good idea to bump it for the upcoming trips and also for those of us who havnt been on a trip with so many different types of drivers for a while.. The only one i can remember is check your mirrors if someones behind you and wait for the last man.
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Think that was about it wasn't it? If someone doesn't have the .ITN & a radio, sing out before the off & folk try to keep them in their mirrors.
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This was actually the 'original' Blattiquette summary, back in the days before many of discovered the beauty of Sat Nav's. The key point as Tony says above is to make sure that folks know that you don't have a Sat Nav and that they're relying on YOU.
Then again devices can go wrong mid run, so it doesnt hurt to keep a weather eye on the car behind irrespective!
I've made comments as a few reminders....
1/ Last car to run with dipped headlights - so that leaders can identify that car from the front.
2/ At any junction ( t/lights, roundabout, turning ) MAKE SURE that the car behind you sees where you are going, early indication, and if necessary either: slow down or wait as applicable for the car behind to make up ground so that they know where we've gone. OR at roundabout if its a large 'blind' r/about circle and pick up any cars that couldn't get across at the same time as you.
3/ The car behind you is your responsibility - no reason why you cant overtake, or open up on a nice stretch of road, but please be aware of the car behind, if after a bit of pedal therapy it doesn't appear, slow down - perhaps he's had a problem, if necessary STOP, and WAIT. Again if necessary make things clear along the line - a toot, flash of lights - whatever it takes to stop those ahead from tearing off ( which they shouldn't if they in turn have been mindful of their mirrors ).
4/ Slower drivers, don't worry about the car in front pulling away from you - perhaps its a 'power' issue or perhaps the guy in front is finding his comfort zone - no problem, you're both out to enjoy yourselves, he will wait for you - that might be a mile down the road, or two - BUT he will wait at the next junction/turn off. And if you don't appear then someone should be coming back to find you in case you have had car problems.
5/ Be courteous to those in the formation and others: No need for hasty/risky overtakes amongst our own crowd!
6/ Help yourself by making sure that you have the destination in your sat nav/phone - if the worst happens atleast you can make the destination under your own steam. BETTER still, when you;'re investing in a sat nav, get one that accepts itinerary files - like TTom. That way you can be assured of knowing the route and if needed can take the pressure off the leaders by taking control of whoever is behind you.
7/ Do yourself a favour and share your mobile number with others in the column.
8/ So you're an hour into a run, in a group of 5, 4 of you get past a 'moving obstacle'....sure have your fun, why waste a nice bit of road, but take stock, and slow down to let the poor tail end charlie catch up....because if you carry on at your normal pace he isn't going to catch you and will be on his 'ownsome' for the rest of the run.
9/ Use your mirrors more than normal - otherwise you won't have a clue that
you've lost your tail!
Run outs & Tours aren't races, they're joint enjoyment of a road/route/region - the point is to find a way of traveling at a pace that suits you but that keeps the cameraderie & fun.
Back in 'the day' I drove in convoy using many of the points above, except that the club i drove with overtook and slowed to wait for all cars to complete the same overtake. It was utterly frustrating as we crawled along beautiful roads waiting for the last 2-3 cars to join us.
Driving in a Group isn't necessarily about being nose to tail, its about being aware that someone has fallen off the back/not been able to catch up and after a reasonable time slowing to a/ allow them to rejoin b/ making sure they haven't a problem. And that's true whether or not everyone/no one has a Sat Nav.
Then again devices can go wrong mid run, so it doesnt hurt to keep a weather eye on the car behind irrespective!
I've made comments as a few reminders....
1/ Last car to run with dipped headlights - so that leaders can identify that car from the front.
2/ At any junction ( t/lights, roundabout, turning ) MAKE SURE that the car behind you sees where you are going, early indication, and if necessary either: slow down or wait as applicable for the car behind to make up ground so that they know where we've gone. OR at roundabout if its a large 'blind' r/about circle and pick up any cars that couldn't get across at the same time as you.
3/ The car behind you is your responsibility - no reason why you cant overtake, or open up on a nice stretch of road, but please be aware of the car behind, if after a bit of pedal therapy it doesn't appear, slow down - perhaps he's had a problem, if necessary STOP, and WAIT. Again if necessary make things clear along the line - a toot, flash of lights - whatever it takes to stop those ahead from tearing off ( which they shouldn't if they in turn have been mindful of their mirrors ).
4/ Slower drivers, don't worry about the car in front pulling away from you - perhaps its a 'power' issue or perhaps the guy in front is finding his comfort zone - no problem, you're both out to enjoy yourselves, he will wait for you - that might be a mile down the road, or two - BUT he will wait at the next junction/turn off. And if you don't appear then someone should be coming back to find you in case you have had car problems.
5/ Be courteous to those in the formation and others: No need for hasty/risky overtakes amongst our own crowd!
6/ Help yourself by making sure that you have the destination in your sat nav/phone - if the worst happens atleast you can make the destination under your own steam. BETTER still, when you;'re investing in a sat nav, get one that accepts itinerary files - like TTom. That way you can be assured of knowing the route and if needed can take the pressure off the leaders by taking control of whoever is behind you.
7/ Do yourself a favour and share your mobile number with others in the column.
8/ So you're an hour into a run, in a group of 5, 4 of you get past a 'moving obstacle'....sure have your fun, why waste a nice bit of road, but take stock, and slow down to let the poor tail end charlie catch up....because if you carry on at your normal pace he isn't going to catch you and will be on his 'ownsome' for the rest of the run.
9/ Use your mirrors more than normal - otherwise you won't have a clue that
you've lost your tail!
Run outs & Tours aren't races, they're joint enjoyment of a road/route/region - the point is to find a way of traveling at a pace that suits you but that keeps the cameraderie & fun.
Back in 'the day' I drove in convoy using many of the points above, except that the club i drove with overtook and slowed to wait for all cars to complete the same overtake. It was utterly frustrating as we crawled along beautiful roads waiting for the last 2-3 cars to join us.
Driving in a Group isn't necessarily about being nose to tail, its about being aware that someone has fallen off the back/not been able to catch up and after a reasonable time slowing to a/ allow them to rejoin b/ making sure they haven't a problem. And that's true whether or not everyone/no one has a Sat Nav.
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Re: Blattiquette... For tours and runs
Great write up Mark. I think that will be really helpful.
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Say NO to Marmots !!! Body count = 1
Say NO to Squirrels!!! Body count = 1
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Say NO to Marmots !!! Body count = 1
Say NO to Squirrels!!! Body count = 1
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Nice read and some sage advice
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Some very good, and basic advice
For me, I always try and follow Duncan or Graham, and no matter how they try, they havnt lost me yet
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For me, I always try and follow Duncan or Graham, and no matter how they try, they havnt lost me yet
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That sounds like a challenge to me Steve
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Stay at the front is my advice just watch out for airborne yellow Westies piloted by Guy Martins dad
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emmmm a black clio as the westy has gone and the mx5 isn't playing ether
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I didn't know the colour of the other cars lol.
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