I will go and check my blue book but I'm 99% sure that dates in seatbelt only apply for racing and not sprinting.
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10.1.9 covers road going cars and states that must comply with k.2.1.1 (Three Point Harness)
10.1.10 covers modified cars and states that must comply with k.2.1.2 (Four Point Harness)
10.1.11 Hill climb and race cars etc k.2.1.3 (Five/Six Point)
In K it states where harnesses are mandatory it is recommended 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 are homologated by the FIA and carry their label, presumably by homologated that includes in date.
Basically for sprinting in a road going class you can turn up in standard car and compete. Simple things you need to watch for:
- Road wheel centres removed if not fixed.
- Cover for +'ve battery termial if you have a metal bonnet
- Head restraint if its not part of the seat back.
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Scrutineers will turn you away if you have a road going car with out of date harnesses....I've seen it happen.
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A Scrutineer did try and stop us when we had a three point Willans harness, I had to point out that we were sprinting and not racing and so three was fine, to be fair it was a joint race/sprint meeting a Silverstone and he was a race scrutineer was happy once he had checked.
Out of interest are you referring to a specific rule or just form past experience?
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past experience. They like to see in-date harness if a harness is fitted.
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There where some mistakes on the first post which I have corrected.
To clarify
BEC engines now appear to be in over 1700cc class
Harness do not need to be in date but they do need to be in good condition (assuming road going class)....Pistol Pete was spot on here.
Helmet sticker if done only once when you first present your helmet to the scrutineer.
So you need
MSA Approved Helmet
FIA Approved suit (Nomex not Proban)
FIA approved gloves
Timing strut
MSA approved background and numbers (one set each side)
Paperwork required
MSA License
Club membership card
Insurance
MoT (if applicable)
In date tax on the car.
So set up costs could be as low as £400-500 and it is then equipment you will have for many seasons to come.
To clarify
BEC engines now appear to be in over 1700cc class
Harness do not need to be in date but they do need to be in good condition (assuming road going class)....Pistol Pete was spot on here.
Helmet sticker if done only once when you first present your helmet to the scrutineer.
So you need
MSA Approved Helmet
FIA Approved suit (Nomex not Proban)
FIA approved gloves
Timing strut
MSA approved background and numbers (one set each side)
Paperwork required
MSA License
Club membership card
Insurance
MoT (if applicable)
In date tax on the car.
So set up costs could be as low as £400-500 and it is then equipment you will have for many seasons to come.
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At Autosport my freind got an approved race suit for £199, helmet for £99, gloves for £15 (deal with the suit) and boots for £60 (these are not compulsory but a good idea ) She is going sprinting for around £450 including buying her MSA licence and number stickers etc. in a roadgoing MX5.
I got told off for my 3-point harnesses which are not legal, so I had to buy 4-points. But my mini although roadgoing falls into the "modified" category so that explains it. But to be honest at somewhere like North weald it is 99.9% safe and your normal road car inertia belts will be more than enough for beginners.
I got told off for my 3-point harnesses which are not legal, so I had to buy 4-points. But my mini although roadgoing falls into the "modified" category so that explains it. But to be honest at somewhere like North weald it is 99.9% safe and your normal road car inertia belts will be more than enough for beginners.
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Cool guide, thanks.
Good to know although underwear is optional it's recommended!
Good to know although underwear is optional it's recommended!
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Re: Sprinting - a quick "how to" guide
Classes for this year
Category A: Road-Going Series/Specialist Production Cars (S.10.10.1/2)
Excluding cars in Appendix 1
1. Standard Production cars up to 1600cc, 2WD, List 1A tyres only
2. Standard Production cars from 1601cc to 2000cc, 2WD, List 1A tyres only
3. Up to 1400cc - 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
4. From 1401cc to 2000cc – 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
5. 2001cc and over – 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
6. 4wd cars of all capacities - list 1A or 1B tyres
Road-Going Kit Type and Replica Cars (Appendix 1)
7. Up to 1700cc excluding motorcycle engined cars- – list 1A or 1B tyres
8. 1701cc and over including motorcycle engined cars of any capacity – list 1A or 1B tyres
Examples of Appendix 1 cars are– Caterham; Westfield; Sylva; Fisher; Lotus 7, Elise,
Exige and 340R; Vauxhall 220; X-Bow and similar types/derivatives of these cars.
Category B:Modified Series/Specialist Production Cars
(S.10.10.3/4)
9. up to 1400cc excluding motorcycle engined cars
10. From 1401cc to 2000cc excluding motorcycle engined cars
11. 2001cc and over excluding motorcycle engined cars
Category C: Sports Libre Cars (S.10.10.6)
12. Up to 1800cc (Motor cycle engined cars up to 1100cc)
13. 1801cc and over (Motor cycle engined cars over 1100cc)
Category D: Racing Cars (S10.10.7)
14. Up to 1100cc
15. 1101cc and over
Category A: Road-Going Series/Specialist Production Cars (S.10.10.1/2)
Excluding cars in Appendix 1
1. Standard Production cars up to 1600cc, 2WD, List 1A tyres only
2. Standard Production cars from 1601cc to 2000cc, 2WD, List 1A tyres only
3. Up to 1400cc - 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
4. From 1401cc to 2000cc – 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
5. 2001cc and over – 2wd only, list 1A or 1B tyres
6. 4wd cars of all capacities - list 1A or 1B tyres
Road-Going Kit Type and Replica Cars (Appendix 1)
7. Up to 1700cc excluding motorcycle engined cars- – list 1A or 1B tyres
8. 1701cc and over including motorcycle engined cars of any capacity – list 1A or 1B tyres
Examples of Appendix 1 cars are– Caterham; Westfield; Sylva; Fisher; Lotus 7, Elise,
Exige and 340R; Vauxhall 220; X-Bow and similar types/derivatives of these cars.
Category B:Modified Series/Specialist Production Cars
(S.10.10.3/4)
9. up to 1400cc excluding motorcycle engined cars
10. From 1401cc to 2000cc excluding motorcycle engined cars
11. 2001cc and over excluding motorcycle engined cars
Category C: Sports Libre Cars (S.10.10.6)
12. Up to 1800cc (Motor cycle engined cars up to 1100cc)
13. 1801cc and over (Motor cycle engined cars over 1100cc)
Category D: Racing Cars (S10.10.7)
14. Up to 1100cc
15. 1101cc and over
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